Since November 2021, Reading Acts is edited by Sarah Westphal. Why believe a self-described co-redeemer holy spirit comforter who claimed; I became your father, therefore I urge you to imitate me? Paul said no, it ONE commandment- to love people. This comes from inconsciously believing Pauls mantra, the Evangelical Mantra, that All Scripure is God-breathed, and falsely assuming Paul was referring to every word in the 66 Books of the Bible. While it is true that Paul did persecute early Christians, it was for his love of the Torah and not because he was rebelling against Roman oppression. Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; Numbers 7:59 chapter context similar meaning "And for a sacrifice of peace offerings, two oxen, five rams, five he goats, five lambs of the first year: this was the offering of Gamaliel the son of Pedahzur." In Paul's letters we see that he had a deep understanding of the law. He will give himself a special title, write at least one special book, and claim special authority, with no need for a second witness to back him up. Paul is the model pastor for many modern Pauls like; a) Bob Coy, who still owns all the assets and controls all the money at his cult known as Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, in spite of his recent resignation as Senior Pastor there due to adultery with multiple woman and other major sins that he still has never specifically admitted to personally. I know! The one in Deuteronomy 6:4-5, or the one in Leviticus 19:18 ? The Astounding Conversion of Paul Paul replied: Im Boss, you work for me, and you do as I say. The second passage refers to Paul. The Fast is known as Yom Kippur. N. T. Wright describes the Shammaite Pharisee as a militant hard-liner that was not willing to work with Rome as long as they could study the Torah, as Hillel had said (What Saint Paul Really Said, 26). There are things which are not revealed and there are things which are revealed to us. take Paul leaving his honor spot of next chief of the Sanhedrin (being Gamaliel's student). When the homeowner returned in the evening, he was furious. Good to see the parrot-heads well represented here. WE are not even in this game! I dont think breakthrough in our faith randomly happens. There are three things bearing on this subject among the incidental intimations which we have in respect to the early history of Saul, viz. The Apostle Paul encountered Jesus on his way to Damascus in one of the most radical of ways, which led to his conversion and stepping into his call to follow Christ and preach the Gospel. When Hillel died, his son Simeon assumed his position, but Simeon died shortly after he took office. It is an observation of fact that much of Matthew is simply copied from Mark. According to Photius, he was baptized by Saint Peter and Saint John, together with his son and Nicodemus. Ibn Taymiyya is the first I know of who said it in writing but obviously it was known as no Hadith mentioned Paul or a 13th Apostle, did name the 12. Gamaliel was a Pharisee, and a prestigious teacher of the law in the council. I think Jesus was God incarnate, but the preaching in Acts 2-3 that brings the increasingly violent reaction is that the Jews killed their true messiah and God raised him from the dead, *and* that he is coming back to judge the nation (starting with Caiaphas?). If you dont ask about Pauls sins, I wont tell about them. As a result, Paul calls Peter a hypocrite for following Maase HaTorah or in English Works of the Law instead of what following what the Torah actually stated. He appointed twelve designating them apostles that they might be with him [Mark 3:13-14], Three chapters later, Then Jesus went around teaching from village to village. (Not The Law the Prophets & the Writings, not All Scripture, not The whole Bible). I do not think, however, that Paul was a Christian Pharisee. But Pauls teachings drive one up the wall. As a Roman citizen, Paul possessed a coveted status Peter was from the school of Shammi and Shaul was clearly from Hillel and we see this when these two Pharisee argue with each other on various topics. God told them to go one way, and they disobeyed God and did the opposite- but God still worked through them eventually, after they repented. Perhaps Gamiliels views influenced Pauls personal comments on marriage in 1 Corinthians 7 (Polhill, Paul and his Letters, 30). Human teachers and influences, for some at least, did not matter. You should have hired a PR firm to promote your name and make if famous. I started following this discussion because I wanted to find out more about Gamaliel, but this thread has thrown up many more points about the Apostles and St Paul in particular. This contradicts the clear specific teaching of Jesus about the first and greatest commandment and the second. (I dare you to use this in your class), I know a girl made of memories and phrases, lives her whole life in chapters and phases -Jimmy Buffett. Quick question (not one of my posts), was Paul around/among those that put Jesus to death?? To date, there is either historical nor tradional evidence to support Sauls presence. How about you? Peter testifies of this in 2 Peter 3:16. Or see the series of posts on Core Beliefs of Second Temple Judaism starting here: https://readingacts.com/2017/03/30/core-beliefs-of-second-temple-judaism-shema/. We can now understand as they did then, what God wills, what Christ said, and His ambassadors taught. The NIV translation inserts the heading Matthias Chosen to Replace Judas for the passage Luke wrote in Acts 1:12-26]. I think the point was not that Jesus was the Messiah, but rather that Peter and John are stating that the High Priest killed the Messiah and God vindicated him by raising him from the dead. Extremely zealous follower of Judaism (Php 3:5-6). Jesus is in agreement with the Law and the Prophets and came to fulfill them. [Matthew 5:17-20]. Yeshua quotes many of them and in many cases agreed or corrected their rulings. Paul was a Diaspora Jew who claimed to have been raised in a family which kept the Jewish traditions without fault. The moment Paul stopped persecuting the disciples of Jesus Christ, he stopped fighting against God. (seriously, when have a much of Jews or Christians agreed on anything? You seem to parrot some of his words in your replies. Jesus did not see even the Hebrew Scriptures, what we call the Old Testament, as a whole unit or book that was all equal or all truly Gods words. Jesus spoke of The Law, or The Law and the Prophets, holding these 2 sections of the Old Testament above the third, least important sections the Writings. And Jesus held the Psalms, the first book of the Writings section, above the other books in the Writings section in importance, since some parts of some Psalms are prophetic. Paul was actually heeding the words of his teacher Gamaliel, who had said to guard against being "found fighters actually against God" by rejecting his pharisaical life and becoming a disciple of Jesus Christ. After Pauls conversion, his passion seems to push him to even greater lengths as he then proclaims the very Jesus he had persecuted! Phillip J. Paul claims to have been educated by Gamaliel, one of the premier teachers of the Law in the first century. If Paul began study at the latest age of 16, we can guess a birth year of about 6 at the earliest. They believe after reading his writings the law is done away with, you can eat what you want and he was anti Judaism. He may have had Greek rhetoric and oration skills, but not at the top level (or at least he says he is not much of a speaker). I interpret 6 months of silence to mean: even if no one here has the courage to agree with me publicly, no one in the world can open a Bible and prove me wrong from the Bible text on these specific points Ive raised here. The issue wasnt the Torah, the issue it was the corrupted law that man attached to the Torah. For Rabbi Saul, the idea that the messiah could be killed is wrong but is it enough to account for a violent reaction like Acts 7 and the stoning of Stephen? Jesus reminds us from The Law at the beginning, the Creator made them male and female. [Matthew 19:4, Genesis 1:27], As to the question of whether the Bible is ALL truly Gods WORDS. Pharisee Saul, inventor of Christianity, the new Pharisees. Gamaliel (Acts 22:3) Who wrote 1 and 2 Timothy? Probably his training with Gamaliel would have been concluded by the time he was twenty and would have given Paul a very good understanding of Old Testament Scripture. Gamaliel may or may not have taken over the position when Simon died. If yes, then are Pauls subjective states really discernible as correlates to these two different schools based only on Pauls texts? To know the truth is a blessing from Allah, if I had to guess you just have not been taught what Islam teaches, and we honor all Prophets (pbut) revere the 12 Apostles and have never acknowledged that Paul was one of Jesus (p) Apostles, but have always known he was responsible for the corruption of the Truth about God and the Messiah (p). Acts 26:4. If Paul began study at the latest age of 16, we can guess a birth year of about A.D. 6 at the earliest. Which owner would be upset if we finished early? Some of its magic, some its tragic, but Ive had a good life along the way. -Jimmy Buffett. Paul's impact on Christianity is enormous and cannot be overstated. There are Rabbinic schools today, of course, who would study the sorts of things Paul would have, so perhaps a yeshiva is a good parallel to Pauls education. On analogy to Supreme Court Justices dissenting in limited and specific cases (anomolies) as a dissenting minority against a majority with whom the dissent would normally agree? Also Gamaliel was apart of the Sanhedrin which were the people that ultimately were the people who decided Jesus fate and persecuted many of the Jews. Paul, however, I think was so strongly devoted to the strict teachings of the Torah, that he had to fundamentally had to disagree with his teacher. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Who did Paul study under in the Bible? While this is a generalization, many of the rabbinic debates of the first century come down to the opinion of Hillel versus Shammai. I keep wondering how far N.T. Whom I might add are much more well versed that you in that subject. Share of voice equals share of mind. Its all a part of Gods perfect timing and plan. ). He has Masters degrees in Biblical Exposition and Old Testament from Talbot School of Theology (BIOLA) and a PhD in New Testament from Andrews University. The Lord Our God is ONE God Greatest Commandment according to the Messiah (p). Yet even here, not even Paul, not even once, ever said that All Scripture is EQUAL in authority, priority, and importance. They also believed gentiles could convert and be in covenant but there needed to be structure to convert. And what kind of a stone is the most solid, permanent, and unchangeable? Dont ask us! Gamaliel In the Christian tradition, Gamaliel is recognized as a Pharisee doctor of Jewish Law. Maybe, from what I have seen of him he does not go to great lengths on anything. Why never quesiton his testimony about himself that he never intentionally disobeyed God, is the sinless ever-virgin, and said; I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some? I can back up my view with plenty of Scripture here is just one, written by the Apostle Peter- 2 Peter 3:2. Moseley is not wrong: the earliest Christ followers were Jewish and no one tried to convert to Christianity, but that is because there was no Christianity to convert to at that point. Needless to say, many still revere Philomena and Christopher as saints. The soul of Saint Gamaliel appeared to the presbyter Lucian in AD 415 and told him where to find the relics of Stephen and those of his own body. This passion is evident in his active persecution of those he saw as going against what the Torah taught about the Messiah. However, as he got farther along in his faith and was eventually converted to Christianity, he became more like a Hillelite which was what Gamaliel was. ), In essence, it is also the same principle as what Eve did in the Garden of Eden, forgetting about the Tree of Life, which is the first tree in the middle of the Garden, and instead referring to the second tree as the tree that is in the middle of the garden. [Genesis 3:3 & 2:9 2:17, 3:24], Kind of like the Pharisees with Jesus, who were pushing the false idea that we can consider ONE commandment in the Law, alone in isolation, to be the greatest commandment in the Law., Or like today, false teachers in the Chrislam Purpose Driven Seeker Sensitive Emergent Liberal Ecumenical New Age world church movement pushing the false idea that the ONE RULE is Loving God and Neighbor together.. I am trying to understand this whole post, but think the discussion is mainly about Paul and why he acted the way he did in persecuting christians after studying under Gamaliel who was more concerned with non violent acts. Any help is much appreciated, in advance! Furthermore, youre also essentially calling Paul a liar. So if our priorities are The Great Commission and the Great Commandment, we have our priorities upside down and confused, and we are not listening to the voice of Jesus. From your article clearly shows you dont even understand the basic concepts of Judaism nor what those schools taught. As a teen, his family sent him to Jerusalem to study under Gamaliel, the most prestigious Jewish teacher of that time, similar to a Harvard education today. Darris McNeely - Dec 7, 2022 | In this class we will discuss Acts 5:26-41 thru Acts 6:1-7 and notice the following events: the apostles being persecuted by the Sanhedrin for teaching in Christ's name; how a Pharisee named Gamaliel spoke up on behalf of the apostles; and the choosing of seven men to help the disciples distribute food. Without any clear time reference, continuing on the theme of the Apostles, Matthew does record These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions [Matthew 10:5] Matthew never said that the Apostles were sent out immediately after being appointed. This idea can even be applied to his post-conversion work seeing how he sought to integrate the Gentiles into the Church when it was still a controversial issue. His epertise in Sitz im Leben however, if not normally impeccable, is usually of a high academic calibre indeed. My question is, is it too outrageous to see Pauls tendency (pre-conversion and post-conversion) as one that is either starting up a new hybrid of Jewish thought or a member of one of the smaller groups already formed? The Apostle Paul met him during his second missionary journey and he became Paul's companion and missionary partner along with Silas. My buddy has a new friend from a Baptist background that seems really smart and good with words. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. If the LORD Yahweh, and His Son Yeshua the Jewish Messiah is God, follow Him; but if Paal is God, follow him. You are using anachronistic terms to describe a pre-70 Jewish teacher like Paul. According to Polhill there were many individual groups in First century Judaism before the war of 66-70 The different groups had much in common But each had its own combination of characteristics (Polhill 28). We proclaim with a big smile And Jesus is my co-pilot So Im always top of the pile, God our Father loves his children He is patient as we grow So we take another step Its The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show, As we journey with The Moose Faithfully by our side We get a revelation We have to swallow our pride, He must become greater He really is The Star I must become less, but still with Him Ill travel far, You must follow me, says Jesus In His eyes I see a twinkle He is not My friend I am HIS Jesus is The Star like Bullwinkle. Now, we have got a complete detailed explanation and answer for everyone, who is interested! His seeds are seeds of oppression and bondage. Responding to a question from Peter, Jesus said to them: you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. [Matthew 19:28]. It sounds so right, so intelligent, so professional, so godly.. but it is fundamentally flawed. Christians threatened his view and interpretation of the law until his conversion in Acts 9. Gamaliel the Elder was the grandson of the great Jewish Rabbi Hillel the Elder, and he kept to Hillel's interpretation of Jewish law. This powerful conversion led Paul to give his life to the mission of building up the church and furthering the kingdom of God. The words of Jesus are superior to the words of everyone else in the Bible and to everyone else in the world. The later evidence of the Mishnah implies an Aramaic commentary on the Hebrew Bible, but that dates to AD 250. There is no god but God Shahada part 1 in Islam. Look forward, not back, dont dwell on your past. Modern day Christianity has more of its roots in Constantine. Indeed in this case Christian tradition cannot really be trusted, in my opinion. Lets not waste our time with endless debates about what Paul really meant with his wacky teachings about baptizing the dead or there is neither male nor female. Paul was wrong. So when Paul wrote his two letters to the Church in Corinth, who was overseeing all aspects of the church? The Clementine Literature suggested that he maintained secrecy about the conversion and continued to be a member of the Sanhedrin for the purpose of covertly assisting his fellow Christians. Not 1 as in 3 in 1. Their cult leader is their hero he is always right, could never be wrong about anything specific, and he must be obeyed in all things and never questioned. One special person, alone, with special words, and a special title, who could never be WRONG. Yet he verbatim stated who he was and no one in the court said otherwise but well take your word for it. The Holy Trinity isnt Jesus, Paul, and Chuck. Whom did Paul study under? Considering the writing of the Mishnah and Talumd are collection of previous works from various Yeshivas (ie before the New Testament) clearly shows you have no idea what youre talking about in regards to Judaism and how the text was culminated. [22] The Roman Catholic church views him as a Saint and listed him in the Roman Martyrology for August 3. That is why there was no mention of Believe and be saved The New Covenant was not even inaugurated until the Last Passover Supper and the 2 Commandments are clearly described in 1st John. Jesus Leadership Training, The Book of Enoch for Beginners: A Guide to Expand Your Understanding of the Biblical World. In Acts 14:23, we read: Paul and Barnabas appointed elders for them in each church. Thanks for the pointer. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do- this I keep on doing. [Romans 7:15-19] (Response- One more time! Saul (Paul) Persecutes the Church [edit | edit source] In Chapter 9 of Acts, we come into close contact with Saul, later known as Paul, for the first time. So it is possible they left out the respected Pharisee Gamaliel so that he would not oppose crucifixion. Then those who finished the garage can go help the others finish the house., One worker objected: But Boss Paul, those were not the owners instructions! Its not easy for me now in 1973, as a young man just trying to start out in ministry. The commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not covet, and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this ONE RULE: Love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to its neighbor. I trust that no one is offended and that as a result of this comment, we might get closer to Him, The Truth. Paul would never have slowed down on his preaching to write the books in the bible we have to learn from, so God put him in prison. Yes youre a cookie cutter christian typing up Constantine derivative nonese. The NIV headings were not part of the original text, and sometimes they can be misleading, but in this case I believe the heading is right on. Did paul study under gamaliel? THey were called Nazarites or Netzarim (plural) or believers of the MEssianic movement (of that time) and were a sect of Judaism. And one throne for that other guy named Peter. What is undisputed is that Gamaliel was "held in . How dare he question the words of our Great Apostle Paul ? Friend, I want to hire you and your team to paint my house and my garage. A persons presuppositions about what Christianity is (or is not) is the real problem here. In Matthew 22 and Mark 12, Jesus identified two commandments, saying one of them is the first and greatest most important one. I would think that he would include that in his self-description as the chief of sinners. 1:1, / 1 Cor. Love is all you need. Yahweh is the path to freedom, not Paul. Gamaliel and his beliefs seem to have a fairly large impact on Paul and his theology. (The Hat is, what were Pauls sins?) Here are the basic steps- (there may be one or two other basic steps, but they are very similar to these. His most recent book is The Book of Enoch for Beginners: A Guide to Expand Your Understanding of the Biblical World (Rockridge, 2022). Neither Paul, nor James, nor Luke were with Jesus and the Apostles the whole time, so they were not qualified to be a witness with the Apostles of Jesus resurrection, which is what it means to be an Apostle. I have said I will ignore you since you are not interested in dialogue. We'll address more of this in a moment. Mosley is actually studied under Flusser. This is a question of fact about the content of the text in the 66 Books of our Bible. Phillip, thank you. Who was Gamaliel in the Bible? For example, But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified (1 Corinthians 9:27 ESV). In athletics and my walk with Christ, I must remain disciplined in all that I do. Yet Mohammed (saw) reiterated the message as Gods Messenger and like the Pharisees rejected him because their forefathers corrupted the original message. But if we want to get closest to The Source, Jesus himself, it makes sense that we should look first to the eyewitness testimony of two of His appointed Apostles who walked with Him faithfully for over 3 years, Matthew & John. ), If you cant prove me wrong, you dont have to say Im right, you dont have to agree, but dont say that Im wrong. If you are sure Im wrong but you dont have time to prove it, that means you are either lazy, willfully ignorant, or are breaking the 9th of the Ten Commandments, You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.. How long was Paul in Arabia? Return to your own blog and post this stuff. Im horrified that youre taking Jewish writings and making crazy stories out of them.. Minhags- customs attached to moses and the oral law to make them valid that were infact against Torah and corrupt. I dont see this in the text. There is absolutely no Christianity in the book of Acts.. Im not sure if there is any evidence of Paul having any athletic prowess on the field but his understanding of Greek athletics is well documented. Being a Pharisee did not disqualify you from believing in Yeshua. For that matter, was he even n the observing crowd at the time of the 1st Pentecost speech by Peter? Then when the paint is dry, Ill move back into the house, and you can paint the garage., The painting contractor hired a new foreman named Paul, and gave him the homeowners instructions. Granted Shammaite pharisees love their Torah to that extent as well, but it is not a distinctly Shammaite practice. Why elevate the words of Marypaulhammad to the highest place, and use them as the lens to view and judge everything else? Anyway, Ill talk with Clinton and see if he has an idea for a short catchy slogan- maybe boiled down to four words or so. Jesus commissioned the eleven With everything I have commanded you Teaching THEM to obey Jesus And THEM means me and you ! when did congress pass the noahide laws; what is monzo building society account? Paul undermined Apollos and heretically claimed I became your father. Last Weeks Reading: Evangelicals, Water, and the Theology of Paul New Ways Forward, http://readingacts.com/2013/09/09/paul-and-gamaliel/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zGS_V5mEOG4, Romans, Part 57 | The Gospel and the Religious Mind, https://unashamedofjesus.org/2016/05/31/greatest-commandment/#comment-5642, https://wonderfulgraceofjesus.wordpress.com/2017/03/08/the-commandments-of-jesus/#comment-120, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65t-OzhlmvE, Pauls Jewish Heritage (Philippians 3:4-6) | Reading Acts, What Kind of Jew was Paul? Pohill points out that Gamaliel seemed to be very resigned about this new Jesus movement, saying that if Christianity was not of Gods will, they would end in disaster just like the false messianic movements in Israels past did (pg 31). For this he is slandered with pride by Christians who if believed in the Bible would reject mainstream theology for the lie it is. 1. Galatians: Freedom through Gods Grace (Wipf & Stock, 2019). It was very interesting to me that it was likely that Paul was raised in a very Jewish home, trained in all the Jewish ways and teachings, and a student of Gamalieland yet he did react to Christianity in such a violent and zealous form. unless some else takes credit for writing these words. I remember the general approach to the Bible at Dallas being that every word in the 66 Books is the Word of God.. and we should interpret it based on the intended meaning of the author in the historical grammatical context.. What is this blog? 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